Comments on: Tantra and the Art of Celibacy http://www.yabyummy.com/blog/tantra_celibacy.htm Yabyummy, unifying sexuality with spirituality and spirituality with sexuality Tue, 24 Aug 2010 05:32:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Kypris http://www.yabyummy.com/blog/tantra_celibacy.htm/comment-page-1#comment-2032 Kypris Tue, 03 Aug 2010 05:54:19 +0000 http://www.yabyummy.com/blog/tantra_celibacy.htm#comment-2032 Victoria, Thank you for sharing your opinion about tantric celibacy. I think this path is different depending on the person who walks it. What is right for me may not be right for another, and what is right for them may not lead me to the center of all things, which is after all, where i hope the journey leads! I try to be cautious about stating that there is one right way to do any practice, and apologize if you interpreted my post that way. What I shared was my experience of one form of tantric celibacy. For me, I don't seek to separate myself from my lower chakras, but rather shift them to their highest expressions while they stay unified with the upper chakras through the magnificent bridge of the open heart. Namaste, Victoria,

Thank you for sharing your opinion about tantric celibacy. I think this path is different depending on the person who walks it. What is right for me may not be right for another, and what is right for them may not lead me to the center of all things, which is after all, where i hope the journey leads! I try to be cautious about stating that there is one right way to do any practice, and apologize if you interpreted my post that way. What I shared was my experience of one form of tantric celibacy. For me, I don’t seek to separate myself from my lower chakras, but rather shift them to their highest expressions while they stay unified with the upper chakras through the magnificent bridge of the open heart.

Namaste,

]]> By: LadyVictoria http://www.yabyummy.com/blog/tantra_celibacy.htm/comment-page-1#comment-2031 LadyVictoria Sun, 01 Aug 2010 22:23:45 +0000 http://www.yabyummy.com/blog/tantra_celibacy.htm#comment-2031 Tantric celebacy is about sublimating the primal animal urges of sexuality into an energy emanating at a higher chakra. Oral sex instead of pussy/cock sex is not sublimating anything, it is self-delusion, but as humans we have a tendency to do that, especially in the West where we think the One is about what we want, that we can make the One into what we are about rather than us ourselves aligning with the One. Tantric celebacy is liberating in the sense that it brings into focus so much more in nature that releases the kundalini, so much more with which we can align our centeredness and thereby reach higher levels of consciousness both alone and then again with a partner who is also attuned to the higher level we have reached. Tantric celebacy is about sublimating the primal animal urges of sexuality into an energy emanating at a higher chakra. Oral sex instead of pussy/cock sex is not sublimating anything, it is self-delusion, but as humans we have a tendency to do that, especially in the West where we think the One is about what we want, that we can make the One into what we are about rather than us ourselves aligning with the One. Tantric celebacy is liberating in the sense that it brings into focus so much more in nature that releases the kundalini, so much more with which we can align our centeredness and thereby reach higher levels of consciousness both alone and then again with a partner who is also attuned to the higher level we have reached.

]]> By: Letsdoitnot http://www.yabyummy.com/blog/tantra_celibacy.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1648 Letsdoitnot Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:43:35 +0000 http://www.yabyummy.com/blog/tantra_celibacy.htm#comment-1648 You are stupid if you think that by engaging in oral sex you are celibate. Celibate is complete self-control and the absence of the thought of sex. Sounds impossible, but that is the domain in which the spiritual world exists, whereas you have created a replacement for your intercourse life by indulge in a parallel sensory world to squeeze pleasure out of (pun intended). You are stupid if you think that by engaging in oral sex you are celibate. Celibate is complete self-control and the absence of the thought of sex. Sounds impossible, but that is the domain in which the spiritual world exists, whereas you have created a replacement for your intercourse life by indulge in a parallel sensory world to squeeze pleasure out of (pun intended).

]]> By: Kypris http://www.yabyummy.com/blog/tantra_celibacy.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1384 Kypris Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:50:20 +0000 http://www.yabyummy.com/blog/tantra_celibacy.htm#comment-1384 Dear Aralia, Thank you so much for sharing with me about your journey with celibacy. What you are describing sounds like a beautiful journey, and it is my experience that focusing on relating at the heart and removing sex for a while really does force me to look at all the opportunities I can create for connection. In my own periods of celibacy, coming back into sexual connection after working through this left me with a heart open even wider that before, and has deepened the tantric connection and practice. I would love to hear about how your own practice deepens you. Namaste, Dear Aralia,

Thank you so much for sharing with me about your journey with celibacy. What you are describing sounds like a beautiful journey, and it is my experience that focusing on relating at the heart and removing sex for a while really does force me to look at all the opportunities I can create for connection. In my own periods of celibacy, coming back into sexual connection after working through this left me with a heart open even wider that before, and has deepened the tantric connection and practice. I would love to hear about how your own practice deepens you.

Namaste,

]]> By: Aralia http://www.yabyummy.com/blog/tantra_celibacy.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1383 Aralia Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:38:33 +0000 http://www.yabyummy.com/blog/tantra_celibacy.htm#comment-1383 Hello, this is very interesting to read. I'm in a different but related situation. My partner suggested a period of mutual celibacy as we both go through important personal changes. He is opening his heart and moving a lot of energy from his sexual center to his heart and third eye and crown center, and he wants to learn to relate to me from the heart and not just "from the cock." For the first four months of our relationship we have had a very passionnate and spirutal erotic connection, actually it got me interested in Tantra because he said it felt like we were doing Tantra without knowing what we were doing (I totally agree). On my side, I have a lot of difficult attachment issues that i'm really diving into these days, and taking a step back from being sexual with him supports me in that. for one thing, sex is complicated and can complicate my attachment issues... for example i've realized it is a way for me to seek reassurance and validation. so taking that avenue of validation away is really pushing me forward in my development. On his side, I think it makes a lot of sense at his age (22) to move from a lust-place to a heart-place. I also think that for women, sometimes the progression moves the other direction: heart is connected and happy first and that allows the orgasmic connection to flow and grow. Well, i don't even know if you're reading this, but there are so few people i can talk to who would understand what i mean when i say our sex is tantric and often psychic and sacred in a way that I haven't found in other relationships (and that's 15 years of dating on my side). Let alone understand why I would say that we've chosen a period of not kissing or being sexual together--which is both scary and totally positive! So i hope you do read this. Om Shanti, and many blessings! Hello,

this is very interesting to read. I’m in a different but related situation. My partner suggested a period of mutual celibacy as we both go through important personal changes. He is opening his heart and moving a lot of energy from his sexual center to his heart and third eye and crown center, and he wants to learn to relate to me from the heart and not just “from the cock.” For the first four months of our relationship we have had a very passionnate and spirutal erotic connection, actually it got me interested in Tantra because he said it felt like we were doing Tantra without knowing what we were doing (I totally agree).

On my side, I have a lot of difficult attachment issues that i’m really diving into these days, and taking a step back from being sexual with him supports me in that. for one thing, sex is complicated and can complicate my attachment issues… for example i’ve realized it is a way for me to seek reassurance and validation. so taking that avenue of validation away is really pushing me forward in my development.

On his side, I think it makes a lot of sense at his age (22) to move from a lust-place to a heart-place. I also think that for women, sometimes the progression moves the other direction: heart is connected and happy first and that allows the orgasmic connection to flow and grow.

Well, i don’t even know if you’re reading this, but there are so few people i can talk to who would understand what i mean when i say our sex is tantric and often psychic and sacred in a way that I haven’t found in other relationships (and that’s 15 years of dating on my side). Let alone understand why I would say that we’ve chosen a period of not kissing or being sexual together–which is both scary and totally positive! So i hope you do read this.

Om Shanti, and many blessings!

]]> By: syreeta http://www.yabyummy.com/blog/tantra_celibacy.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1099 syreeta Thu, 21 May 2009 23:27:51 +0000 http://www.yabyummy.com/blog/tantra_celibacy.htm#comment-1099 ..interesting reading....I have been celibate for five years so far....although i consider myself a very sexual person...just in a different way from the norm!... ..interesting reading….I have been celibate for five years so far….although i consider myself a very sexual person…just in a different way from the norm!…

]]> By: Kannan http://www.yabyummy.com/blog/tantra_celibacy.htm/comment-page-1#comment-870 Kannan Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:55:15 +0000 http://www.yabyummy.com/blog/tantra_celibacy.htm#comment-870 This is a good start, but if you really want to feel the real power, Try to remain celibate with no orgasm or any kind of stimulation to your genitals at all. You will experience a state beyond pleasure and pain, a state of deep peace, stillness and love. Ofcourse make sure there is no supression of any kind, you would need to do yogic breating and asanas to keep your energy moving through your body so that they don't accumulate in your lower chakras. You will experience a freedom and joy , and you whole body will feel alive and powerful. I have heard that it takes 9 months for the process to complete. I am on month #2 right now This is a good start, but if you really want to feel the real power, Try to remain celibate with no orgasm or any kind of stimulation to your genitals at all. You will experience a state beyond pleasure and pain, a state of deep peace, stillness and love. Ofcourse make sure there is no supression of any kind, you would need to do yogic breating and asanas to keep your energy moving through your body so that they don’t accumulate in your lower chakras. You will experience a freedom and joy , and you whole body will feel alive and powerful. I have heard that it takes 9 months for the process to complete. I am on month #2 right now

]]> By: Susan http://www.yabyummy.com/blog/tantra_celibacy.htm/comment-page-1#comment-193 Susan Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:02:29 +0000 http://www.yabyummy.com/blog/tantra_celibacy.htm#comment-193 WOW!!! Kypris, We haven't seen each other in a long time, nor do I practice with your community, however, I have a strong interest in exploring tantra and have been afraid to start coming to experience with you. My relationships with men, now, have gratefully become the most healthy I've ever experienced in my life. Frankly, I haven't wanted to come experience tantra classes without a partner I love deeply, and have felt uncomfortable considering being in an environment where people are so focus on sexual pleasure without someone I love to come with me. I am starting to realize that it IS possible for me to practice tantra on my own if I want to. I have recently lost the romanticism I had with a very special man who I truly care for and had the most amazing sexual experience with, like none other. Right now I can't imagine being with anyone else, though I know that will change when I am truly healed from this loss of being so naturally committed solely to him. He was celibate for several years before me, and now I have come to realize that I need to practice this for some time. I feel that abstaining has to do with respecting the intuitive body, choosing to abstain when knowing something is out of balance with a partner, and quite honestly, though it may change for me, I would rather be in agreement with someone about our love and commitment to one another before having intercourse. It seems to be the highest form of respect for my body, for me personally, to live that way. In other words...I have never been abe to have a one night stand or meaningless sexual contact, ever. Something will physically not allow me to go past certain thresholds with whomever. I truly want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for your commitment to your self and sharing. I have deleted so many of your newsletters sometimes with or without even glancing at them, and simply the word "celibacy" is what struck me that I absolutely had to read it that moment. I am so proud of you for having the courage to challenge yourself with celibacy, especially given that you are so sexually knoweldgeable and experienced. I honestly believe that by doing so- you are balancing abstainence with the sexual experience in a way that will truly serve your community in a broader, more expansive way. I feel like I can truly respect all of your efforts knowing that it's not just about spiritual/sexual gratification. I feel like because you are leading from the heart I can trust that if I choose to come to a class you will understand me...my fears, hopes, desires, and True Self more than I had considered before. Thank You. WOW!!! Kypris, We haven’t seen each other in a long time, nor do I practice with your community, however, I have a strong interest in exploring tantra and have been afraid to start coming to experience with you. My relationships with men, now, have gratefully become the most healthy I’ve ever experienced in my life. Frankly, I haven’t wanted to come experience tantra classes without a partner I love deeply, and have felt uncomfortable considering being in an environment where people are so focus on sexual pleasure without someone I love to come with me. I am starting to realize that it IS possible for me to practice tantra on my own if I want to.
I have recently lost the romanticism I had with a very special man who I truly care for and had the most amazing sexual experience with, like none other. Right now I can’t imagine being with anyone else, though I know that will change when I am truly healed from this loss of being so naturally committed solely to him. He was celibate for several years before me, and now I have come to realize that I need to practice this for some time. I feel that abstaining has to do with respecting the intuitive body, choosing to abstain when knowing something is out of balance with a partner, and quite honestly, though it may change for me, I would rather be in agreement with someone about our love and commitment to one another before having intercourse. It seems to be the highest form of respect for my body, for me personally, to live that way. In other words…I have never been abe to have a one night stand or meaningless sexual contact, ever. Something will physically not allow me to go past certain thresholds with whomever.
I truly want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for your commitment to your self and sharing. I have deleted so many of your newsletters sometimes with or without even glancing at them, and simply the word “celibacy” is what struck me that I absolutely had to read it that moment. I am so proud of you for having the courage to challenge yourself with celibacy, especially given that you are so sexually knoweldgeable and experienced. I honestly believe that by doing so- you are balancing abstainence with the sexual experience in a way that will truly serve your community in a broader, more expansive way. I feel like I can truly respect all of your efforts knowing that it’s not just about spiritual/sexual gratification. I feel like because you are leading from the heart I can trust that if I choose to come to a class you will understand me…my fears, hopes, desires, and True Self more than I had considered before. Thank You.

]]> By: Akasha http://www.yabyummy.com/blog/tantra_celibacy.htm/comment-page-1#comment-192 Akasha Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:49:19 +0000 http://www.yabyummy.com/blog/tantra_celibacy.htm#comment-192 You expressed a perfect explanation of tantric celibacy! So many don't want to consider this path and yet, it can be so opening. Personally, I spent 1 year celibate and found it to be a most enlightening way of getting in touch with my own sexuality. Thank you so much for starting this discussion. Namaste Akasha You expressed a perfect explanation of tantric celibacy! So many don’t want to consider this path and yet, it can be so opening. Personally, I spent 1 year celibate and found it to be a most enlightening way of getting in touch with my own sexuality.

Thank you so much for starting this discussion.

Namaste

Akasha

]]> By: Howard http://www.yabyummy.com/blog/tantra_celibacy.htm/comment-page-1#comment-191 Howard Fri, 11 Apr 2008 06:16:00 +0000 http://www.yabyummy.com/blog/tantra_celibacy.htm#comment-191 Thanks so much for your open, vulnerable sharing, Kypris. It's nice to hear a woman speak in such depth about the various elements you have touched on here... furthers my insights about women's sexuality. Come to think of it, I'd be interested in hearing more of similar insights and inner tensions, etc. from some men. I've plumbed "the depths" with both women and men on most other subjects, but was just realizing that I've not done so very much on sexuality, especially with men (conversationally, or on a blog, etc.). I know I could probably find good discussions somewhere on the net, but it would be especially of interest to have some with men I've met in the local tantra community. Thanks so much for your open, vulnerable sharing, Kypris. It’s nice to hear a woman speak in such depth about the various elements you have touched on here… furthers my insights about women’s sexuality. Come to think of it, I’d be interested in hearing more of similar insights and inner tensions, etc. from some men. I’ve plumbed “the depths” with both women and men on most other subjects, but was just realizing that I’ve not done so very much on sexuality, especially with men (conversationally, or on a blog, etc.). I know I could probably find good discussions somewhere on the net, but it would be especially of interest to have some with men I’ve met in the local tantra community.

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